In this sohbet Shaykh Adnan relays salams from Mawlana Shaykh Nazim. He quotes a Hadith of the Prophet (sas), "There is no iman if I am not more beloved to you than your self and your family." He then relates a story of Imam Shafii, who as a child, debated a group of priests and brought them all to Islam when he asked them "What is the key to Paradise?"